[转载]巴关谈人生模式及最近三年的能量转化_覌心灵自在_新浪博客

1月7日,巴关再次与上海的朋友进行视频达显,其内容如下:

Question #1: Bhagavan, we all read you and Amma's new year message, about all these let go's. Does it take efforts, or will it happen naturally? If it take efforts, is it possible that we fall into wrong directionsBhagavan, will you share with us if there will be any negative energy involved. Thank you.

{dy}个问题:巴格旺,我们都阅读了你和阿玛的新年讲话,包括那些“放下”。放下需要努力吗?还是会自然发生?如果需要努力的话,我们有可能误入歧途吗?有负面能量的参与吗?谢谢你。 

Bhagavan The word as we move into oneness is effortless effort. That is, up to a point there is effort, then it has to become effortless. Now the example I offer is, there is a snake in a dark room, then you are in great fear. Then you get a torch light, getting the torch light is the effort, switching on the light is the deeksha. Then the light comes out, that require no effort. In the light you see that it is a rope and not a snake, instantly the fear is gone. No energy is required, no effort is required, no time is required. That is the effortless part, getting the torch light and putting on the switch is the effort part. 

巴格旺:进入合一状态的关键词是“无为之为”。那就是说,到达某处之前我们需要努力,然后就不需要努力了。举例来说,你在一个黑房间里遇到一条蛇,你很害怕。你拿来一只手电筒,拿手电筒的举动是一个努力,打开手电筒类似于合一祝福。手电筒亮了,这不需要任何努力。在光亮下你看见那是一根绳子而不是一条蛇,你的恐惧马上消失了。这不需要任何能量,不需要任何努力和时间。这是无为的部分,拿手电筒和打开手电筒是有为的部分。 

 Similarly here, you must first make an effort, like observing how the body is breathing, how the body is walking. And say you are taking a morning bath, how the body is reacting, you are brushing your teeth, what's happening. You must begin with your senses, and then you must become slowly aware of your thoughts. Now up to that point, effort is needed. Then if you see that you are not letting go of your hurt, you are not letting go of your suffering, you are not letting go of your pain. If you try to let go of your hurt, let go of your anger, let go of your pain, that is wrong effort, that kind of effort is no use, it will not produce negative energy, but it is no use. In fact it will strengthen the problem.

   同样,你必须首先付出努力,比如观察身体是如何做呼吸的,身体是怎样行走的。如果你在早晨洗澡,你的身体是如何反应的。如果你在刷牙,观察刷牙的过程。必须从感官开始,然后你必须逐步觉察你的意念。到此为止是需要努力的。这时如果你发现你没有放下自己的创伤,没有放下你的愤怒,没有放下你的痛苦,如果你试图放下你的创伤、放下你的愤怒、放下你的痛苦,这就是错误的努力,这样的努力是无效的,它不会产生负面能量,但是它没有效果。事实上它会加重问题。 

   On the other hand, what you must now see is putting the initial effort, and how effort itself is preventing you from letting go. The effort itself is useless, if you can see that, a very natural letting go will happen, like a dry leave on a tree, it will naturally falls. Similarly, if you go on seeing, how every effort is preventing it from happening, then, without any effort, it will naturally happen. So the word "Letting go" does not mean you are going to let go. In the work of oneness, there is no you at all. The effort to let go is the "you". Therefore this you must observe, that every effort is destroying what you want to get. That you must see. Once you see that, automatically it happens. It has to be effortless. If by any chance that you are putting in some effort, and you got something, then you must know that something wrong has happened, it has to happen on its own. So, that's the answer for the first question, if it's too long for you or ...

   另外,你必须看到是努力本身在阻止你放下。努力是无效的,如果你能够看到这个,放下就会自然发生。这样,不用任何努力放下就会自然发生。同样,如果你看到所有的努力都在阻止它的发生,这样不用任何努力它就会发生。 “放下”这个词不意味着你要去放下。在合一工作中xx没有你。试图放下的努力就是“你”,所以你必须观察到,所有的努力都破坏了你的目的。一旦你看见这一点,它就会自然发生。这必须是无为的。如果你努力了,而且得到了一些结果,那么就有问题了。它必须自主地发生。这是{dy}个问题的回答。希望它不是太长...... 

Question #2: We all experience ups and downs, particularly those unexpected downs like the loss of family members, fall into financial crisis, or breakup a relationship. We want to know why this kind of things happen to us. How should we walk out of that and go ahead positively? How can our wishes be realized every time and faster?

第二个问题:我们都会经历到顺境和逆境,特别是出乎意料的逆境,比如家庭成员的去世,经济危机,或者人际关系的破裂。我们想知道为什么会发生这样的事情。我们怎样从逆境中走出来,乐观地往前走?我们怎样才能更快地实现每个愿望? 

Bhagavan Up to a point, we could use psychology, and explain what is happening. But oneness has a different idea of what is actually going on. It's not opposed to modern psychology or ancient psychology. Psychology is useful for a purpose, whatever we know about psychology. But oneness believe that every human being is really a computer. And that there is a program to that computer. In this program we have identified three components. The first component is called primary conditioning, the second is called secondary conditioning, the third is called the tertiary conditioning. The three constitute the whole program. The first part of conditioning, is called the primary program. We believe it starts from past life and ends at the moment of conception. The second program, or what we call the secondary program, starts from the moment of conception and ends at the point the self is born, the self means the sense of separation. The tertiary program starts from the moment the self is born to the current day.

巴格旺:在一定范围内,我们可以用心理学来解释发生的事情。但是合一对于实际发生的事情有不同观点。合一并不反对现代和古代的心理学。心理学有特定的作用,但是合一相信每个人其实是一台电脑,电脑里有一个程序。我们在这个程序里确认了三部分。{dy}部分叫做初级制约,第二部分叫做二级制约,第三部分叫做三级制约。三部分组成了整个程序。初级制约,也叫{dy}程序,我们相信它从前世开始,到受精时刻结束。二级制约,或者第二程序,从受精时刻到自我意识出现,自我代表孤立的感觉。三级制约从自我意识出现一直到现在。 

   Now, for the example of a child to be, as he is getting delivered, has to move backwards, then get delivered. Such a child would have to delay in his academics, in his job and business or profession. He may not get it in the first attempt, he needs a second attempt. Also things would get delayed for him. Suppose the delay is 5 minutes, it could translates into five month. Suppose the delay is half an hour, it could mean 3 years, 4 years or 5 years. Suppose the delay is an hour or so, then he may have to wait 20 or 30 years, and the man may even die before it happens. Suppose he is going inside and outside 3 times, 4 times or 5 times, accordingly in real life, everything has to happen 3 times, 4 times or 5 times. So that part of your life is being controlled by the last moment of delivery. Now depending on what happened at that moment, depending on how much time it took, the delay actually corresponds to the same amount in real life multiplied many times over.  Now similarly if it happens to Caesarean baby and forceps baby, then also, he will need a lot of push, by friends, by relatives, to push for achievements in academics, job, profession, or whatever he is doing. He would not be able to achieves things on his own.

   例如,当一个胎儿即将出生时,如果他需要来回几次才出子宫,这样的孩子就会拖延自己的学业、职业和生意。他很可能在{dy}次尝试时得不到,需要第二次尝试,他的事情会被耽搁。如果他出生时被耽误了五分钟,将来做事的延误可能是五个月。如果他被耽误了半小时,将来的延误可能是四年、五年。如果他被耽误了一小时,他的事情可能需要等2030年,甚至至死都没有实现目的。如果他在产道里来回了四五次,那么在后来的生活中所有的事情都要重复四五次。所以你的生活被出生的{zh1}时刻所控制。根据当时的经历,在生活中被耽误的时间对应于出生时被耽误的时间乘以许多倍。如果是剖腹产或者使用了产钳,那样的孩子在学业、职业、任何事物中需要朋友和亲属的许多推动。他将无法独立做事。 

The other thing is, what was the mother's thought while he or she was in the womb. Suppose the mother is carrying (a baby), but her thoughts are that she might get cancer, that is, the mother may get cancer. You will soon find when the child grows up and become big, the child will get cancer, nothing happens to the mother.  So a lot has to trace back to the mother's thoughts.

另外,怀孕期间母亲的思想也是很重要的。如果母亲在怀孕时担忧自己可能会得癌症,你会发现当孩子长大后会得癌症,而母亲却没事。很多事情可以追踪到母亲的思想。

  

Certain things come from past lives. Like we had a person who have severe headache and pain in the arm. We traced it backward, and found in very very ancient time the person was beating up a goat, continously with the right hand. And the problem was repeating now, no medical doctor could do anything. Once that was seeing, we made the person repent for seven days, the pain completely vanished. Similarly lot of things happen in past life.

某些事情来自前世。我们曾经帮助过一个患有严重xx和手臂痛的人。我们向过去回溯,发现在一个遥远的前世中这个人曾经用右手很很地抽打过一头山羊。现在这个业力显现了,医生们无能为力。一旦看到了这个因缘,我们让这个人连续忏悔了七天,痛感xx消失了。所以前世发生的事情也很多。  

What happens in the first few hours is important. Suppose it's a baby girl, mother picks up the girl, people has been very nice, expecting a baby boy. That girl will behave like a boy. The program is more or less molded by the first six years of your life, that only controls your life. If you are going to have a divorce in your life, you going to have a business failure, you going to have a accident, everything could be traced back to the program.

头几个小时发生的事情很重要。如果生了女孩,母亲抱起了她,周围的人很友善,他们期待着一个男孩,这个女孩长大后就会象个男孩一个行动。程序基本上被人生的头六年所决定,就是这个程序在控制你的生活。如果你离婚了,生意失败了,发生事故了,所有这些事情都可以追踪到这个程序。  

Now suppose you are having some difficulty with your wife or husband, you can do certain amount of psychology work. You can ask the husband to be more considerate to his wife, more loving to his wife. Maybe he will be that if it's part of his program. Otherwise no amount of psychology, no amount of teaching, nothing is going to work. In which case we have to go right into the program and set you right.  Then there is no problem that cannot be solved. If it cannot be solved, at least it can be dissolved, and it will no more affect you.

现在假如你和你的配偶有矛盾,你可以做一些心理xx。你可以要求丈夫对妻子更体贴,更有爱心。如果这些要求是他的程序的一部分,他可能会改变。否则再多的心理xx和思想开导都没有用。这时我们必须直接进入程序中做调整,那样没有任何问题不可以解决。如果解决不了,至少可以让你放下它,让它不再影响你。 

How we look at this program? All you need to do is to go into a hypnotic body state, a state in-between waking and sleep, a state which you must go through to go to sleep, an intermediate state. You go into a hypnotic body state, then you move into sleep. Similarly upon waking up, you come out of sleep, then you move into the hypnotic body state, then into the waking state. Now at anytime of the day, by relaxing the body, you should be able to get into it, and then you must take a deeksha.  Taking a deeksha, you must ask Amma and Bhagavan: "Please show us the program, and where we are stuck."  Then we will examine the whole thing, and stop exactly where you are stuck. And one more request, we will change the program. With a little effort and a little understanding, you should be able to change your program.  As the program change, you will get the effects in real life.  Sometime effect would be in 24 hours, sometime in 48 hours, sometime in a month. As the program change, your life will change. All these problems will suddenly be handled. Would you translate? I think I (have talked) a little fast.

我们怎样看待这个程序?你只需要进入身体催眠状态,一个介于睡眠和清醒的状态。你在睡觉过程中必须经过这个状态。当你睡醒时也是如此,你从睡眠态进入身体催眠态,然后进入清醒态。在清醒态的任何时刻,通过放松就能够进入它,然后你需要接受一个合一祝福。接受过程中,你请求阿玛和巴格旺:“请让我看见我的程序,以及我在程序中被阻碍的地方。”我们会检查整个程序,在你被阻碍的地方停下来。你再提出改变的请求,我们就会改变你的程序。通过一点努力和理解,你就可以改变你的程序。当程序改变后,你的现实生活就会改变。在24小时、48小时、一周或者一个月之内就开始生效。当程序改变后,你的生活就会改变。所有这些问题会马上得到解决。


Question#3: Bhagavan, would you advise us how to center our efforts in our journey to oneness in the year 2010?

第三个问题:巴格旺,在2010年进入合一的旅程中我们的焦点应该在哪里,你可以给我们一点建议吗? 

Bhagavan: Yes. In 2010, your focus should be on discovering who you are. Now as I often said, a truth that is not your truth is still untruth. So you have to discover truth about yourself. The fact is one does not know really much about oneself. So you have to go into yourself, like a good archaeologist, digs up earth, and find out what is there. You must dig into yourself, and see who you really are. You have a totally wrong image about yourself, because you are hiding from yourself. So you must make use of the energy of 2010, and discover who you are. Now we will help you with that.

巴格旺:是的。在2010年,你的焦点应该是发现xxx。我经常说,在一个真理成为你自己的真理之前,它还不是真理。所以你必须发现关于你自己的真理。事实上人们并不知道很多关于自己的事情。你必须进入你自己,象一名能干的考古学家一样挖掘地下,发现埋藏在地下的事物。你必须挖掘自己,看见你真实的面目。你对自己的印象xx是虚幻不实的,因为你连自己也要隐瞒。所以你必须利用2010的能量去发现自己是谁。我们会帮助你。 

   In 2011, your focus must be on accepting who you are. So in the whole of 2010, your focus must be on discovering who you are, in 2011, on accepting who you are, and in 2012, on just seeing who you are. So the energy will shift from 2010, to 2011, to 2012. As the energy shift, you can move from discovering who you are to accepting who you are, to seeing who you are. In the future Skype, we will help you to discover more about yourself. So that's the answer to the third question.

   2011年,你的焦点必须是接受你自己。在整个2010年,你必须致力于发现xxx;在2011年,接受你自己;在2012年,只是观察你自己是谁。从201020112012能量会随之转移。当能量转移时,你应该从发现自己,转到接受自己,然后转到观察你自己。在未来的Skype交谈中,我们会帮助你更深入地发现自己。这是第三个问题的回答。  

Sushma: That's a short one. Thank you. .... Thank you so much. Now should we have prayers?

组织人:这是一个简短的回答。感谢你。(翻译)非常感谢你。现在我们应该祈祷吗? 

Bhagavan: Yes. Whatever you wish. We will help.

巴格旺:是的。你们想祈祷什么就祈祷什么。我们会帮助你们。 

Sushma: OK, so let's be ready for it. Please close your eyes.

组织人:好的。我们准备好。闭上眼睛。 

Bhagavan: Love you all. Thank you.

巴格旺:我爱你们。谢谢你。

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