《搏击俱乐部》经典台词- 大山临盆- 博客大巴
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     That old saying,how you always hurt the one you love? Well,it works both ways. 
      俗话说,人们总会伤害他所爱的人,其实人们也会爱上他所伤害的人。 
       
      Between those huge,sweating tits that hung enormous the way you’d think of god’s as big. 
      头被埋在这么大的奶子中间,不禁认为上帝的胸部也很壮观。 
       
      Echo:I could’t sleep. I could’t sleep. Everyting’s far way. With insomnia, nothing’s real. Everyting’s a copy of a copy of a copy. 
      xx症让我感受不到真实,一切都很虚幻,事情都成了相同的拷贝。 
       
      We used to read pornography. Now it was the horchow collection. 
      以前我们看xx图片寻找刺激,现在是看产品目录。 
       
      Lost in oblivion,dark and silent and complete. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom. 
      不顾一切,感到黑暗,沉默和完整。我找到了自由,抛开所有希望就是自由。 
       
      I wasn’t really dying. I wasn’t host to cancer or parasites. I was the warm little center. That the life of this world crowded around. 
      我没有绝症,也没有癌症或是寄生菌。我只是一个小小的中心,周围拥挤的生命的中心。 
       
      Every evening, I died and every evening, I was born again. Resurrected. 
      我每晚都会死一次,可是又重生一次。复活过来。 
       
      When you have insomnia, you’re never really asleep and you’re never really awake. 
      得xx症的人无法真正入睡,也没有清醒的时刻。 
       
      If I did have a tumor…I’d name it Marla. Marla…the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it, but you can’t. 
      玛拉犹如我的癌症,就像长在嘴边的烂疽一般。不去舔就不会恶化,但没有办法不去舔。 
       
      Marla’s philosophy of life was that she might die at any moment. The tragedy, she said, was that she didn’t. 
      玛拉的哲学是,她随时都会死。悲惨的是,她一直都没死。 
       
      This is your life, and it’s ending one minute at a time. 
      你的生命一分一分的消逝。 
       
      If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? 
      若在不同时间于不同地点醒来,你会变成不同的人吗? 
       
      Why do guys like you and I know what a duvet is? Is this essential to our survival in the hunter-gatherer sense of the world? No. What are we, then? We’re consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty…these things don’t concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy’s name on my underwear. Rogaine, viagra, olestra. 
      我们一定要知道鸭绒垫子吗?我们一定要字字斟酌吗?不。那你和我算什么?我们是消费者,我们满脑子想的都是物质。我不关心凶杀案和贫穷问题,我只关心名人杂志,500个频道的电视,我内裤上印着谁的名字。xx剂,威尔钢,xx药。 
       
      Fuck Martha Stewart. Martha’s polishing the brass on the Titanic. It’s all going down, man. So fuck off with your sofa units and strinne green stripe patterns. I say, never be complete. I say, stop being perfect. I say, let’s evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. 
      去她的玛莎,玛莎所造就的世界慢慢沉沦。去你的沙发和绿条纹沙发布。不要让自己什么都有,不要做xx的人,我们要进化,水来土掩。 
       
      The things you own end up owning you.你已经被物质奴役了。 
       
      I should’ve been looking for a new condo. I should’ve been haggling with my insurance company. I should’ve been upset about my nice, neat flaming little shit. But I wasn’t. 
      我早该另觅公寓,找保险公司办理赔的,我应该要替我的失去感到难过,可是我没有。 
       
      It was right in everyone’s face. Tyler and I just made it visible. It was on the tip of everyone’s tongue. Tyler and I just gave it a name. 
      每个人脸上都有这种表情,泰勒和我只是表现出来。大家都这么想,泰勒和我则直言不讳。 
       
      You weren’t alive anywhere like you were there. But fight club only exists in the hours between when fight club starts and when fight club ends. Even if I could tell someone they had a good fight, I wouldn’t be talking to the same man. Who you were in fight club, is not who you were in the rest of the world. The guy who came to fight club for the first time, his ass was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks, he was carved out of wood. 
      在那里,你才真正的活了起来。搏击俱乐部只在聚会时存在,就算是我认为打得很棒的人,聚会结束后,也会马上改变。在俱乐部的你不是其他地方的你。刚来俱乐部的人,屁股都是光滑圆润,几周后,就像雕刻过的木头。 
       
      Self-improvement is masturbation. And self-destruction. 
      自我成长要靠手淫,还有自我毁灭。 
       
      Sticking feathers up your butt does make you a chicken.插上羽毛, 不等于你就是老鹰。 
       
      Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing. 
      没有痛苦和牺牲,就没有收获 
       
      You have to consider the possibility that god does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen. We don’t need him. Fuck damnation,man. Fuck redemption. We are god’s unwanted children? So be it! 
      你要假设上帝不爱你,他一直都不想要你,或许还很讨厌你呢。你的痛不是最悲惨的事。我们不需要他,去他的诅咒和赎罪,我们都是被上帝遗弃的子民。 
       
      First you have to give up. First you have to know, not fear, know that someday you’re gonna die. It’s only after we’ve lost everyting that we’re free to do anyting. 
      你得先放弃一切,你必须没有恐惧,面对你总有{yt}会死的事实。只有抛弃一切,才能获得自由。 
       
      Advertising has its taste in cars and clothes. Working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don’t need. We’re the middle children of history. No purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war’s a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won’t. We’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off. 
      广告诱惑我们买车子,衣服,于是拼命工作买不需要的东西,我们是被历史遗忘的一代,没有目的,没有地位,没有世界大战,没有经济大恐慌,我们的大战只是心灵之战,我们的恐慌只是我们的生活。我们从小看电视,相信有{yt}会成为富翁,明星或摇滚xx,但是,我们不会。那是我们逐渐面对着的现实,所以我们非常愤怒。 
       
      No fear. No distractions. The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide. 
      抛弃一切,才有自由。有一种能力看透并抛弃,不在乎失去一切。 
       
      You’re not your job. You’re not how much money you have in the bank. You’re not the car you drive. You’re not the contents of your wallet. You’re not your fucking khakis. You’re the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world. 
      工作不能代表你,银行存款并不能代表你,你开的车也不能代表你,皮夹里的东西不能代表你,衣服也不能代表你,你只是平凡众生中的其中一个. 
       
      You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world. We are all part of the same compost heap. 
      你不是什么特别的人物,你不是美丽的、{dywe}的雪花,你跟其他生物是同样的有机物。我们只是来这世界走一遭罢了,跟其他生物没什么两样。 
       
      You need to forget about what you know. That’s your problem. Forget about what you think you know about life, about friendship, and especially about you and me. 
      忘了你知道的一切吧,那是你的问题所在。忘了你以为的生活,友谊,尤其是你和我的事。 
       
      Hitting bottom isn’t a weekend retreat. It’s not a goddamn seminar. Stop trying to control everything and just let go. 
      躲到安抚团体不能解决一切,别再控制一切,应抛弃一切。 
       
      In your world I see, you’re stalking elk through the damp canyon forest, around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You’ll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You’ll climb the vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you’ll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway. 
      在你的世界里,你不自觉的被限制住。你的衣着为外界所定型,为了生存遗忘本身的才能。应该往下看看密密麻麻的小生物,高速公路上只是空荡荡的。 
       
      You met me at a very strange time in my life. 
      我们相遇的时候,碰巧是我人生中最诡异的一段时间。 

     

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    2006-07-12 11:31:18   转自: 暴虐行走 (钢牙阿姨) http://movie.douban.com/review/1057494/   

     

     

      一直以来,许多人将这部电影阐释为左派思潮的再现,是的,片中有对消费社会的批判,有对庇护者和人道主义虚伪的精神安慰的颠覆,有对资产阶级生活方式以及碌碌无为的苟且之辈的嘲讽。它让我们充满热血和激丨情,我们不需要什么宜家家具,什么星巴克咖啡,我们要的是进化,我们不需要什么虚伪的临终安慰和精神xx,我们要的是对疼痛的感知和强人意志。我们没有上帝,我们只是孤独而自由的个体,就像萨特说的那样,人是被判定为自由的。但是萨特至少还经历了二战,经历了五月风暴。我们是什么?我们被历史抛弃了,我们处在没有战争,没有英雄的时代,小的时候,我们渴望长大成为the big man,现在我们已经长大,却发现这是不可能的。周围的一切似乎显得太过正常,人们只用坐在舒适的宜家沙发里,吃着乐事薯片,喝着可口可乐,看着松下家庭影院,一切苦难和暴力都只存在于摄像机指向的远方,电视机和互联网代替我们的眼睛和身体去感知这个世界,留给我们自己的只有虚妄。所以我们要革命,我们要反抗,我们要在体制之外,毁灭这个世界的条条框框。所有的这一切都曾经激励我,一遍一遍的看这部电影。但现在我发现我错了,也许这不是一种错,只是一种有意无意的忽略。 

     

      这是一部太过典型的美国意识形态影片。也许大家都感觉到,自有着大丨乳丨房的Bob在一次行动中意外身亡之后,剧情就急转直下。但也许对剧情的扑朔迷离太过着迷,而忘却了或者是忽略了最终是怎样的意识形态占了上风。套用后现代主义的代表人物之一,德里达的一部书名,xxx的幽灵们,我愿意将这部电影视为xxx的又一幽灵的现身和幻灭。自xxx的共产主义学说产生至今,许多左派知识分子都曾经沉迷于这场空前的运动,但是最终却与共丨产党决裂。卡尔•波普就是其中最典型的一个。他将xxx的学说称为为历史主义,并批判共产主义运动是乌托邦工程。历史主义就是“以历史预见为主要目的”,并且以为“通过发现历史进程的‘节律’或‘范式’、‘规律’或‘趋势’便可以达到这一目的”的理论。历史主义者依据自己所理解的历史规律,提供了改造社会的通盘计划,这种计划的制定和实施就是“乌托邦工程”。概括来说,乌托邦工程就是打着内涵模糊的旗号,如自由、平等来要求追随者牺牲自由、平等甚至生命,来实现也许永远无法实现的目标。共产主义者成为一种符号,就像影片中没有名字的太空猴子。 

     

      就像福柯所说的那样,共产主义只是一种更为精妙的独裁和专制。影片中泰勒说,你要假定上帝根本不爱你。在西方近代的思想史中,形而上学的迷梦被打破,尼采说,上帝死了。是的,人们似乎是自由了,但是萨特说,自由是一种重负。失去了庇护的人孤独而无助,如孤魂野鬼般游荡于天地之间。就像希特勒,斯大林乃至毛丨泽东一样,卡里斯玛式的泰勒只是一个新的庇护者,他帮助主人公蜕变和成长,他给了主人公勇气和智慧,却最终篡夺了主人公的选择权,僭越了主人公的意志自由。也许这里存在一个小小的隐喻,泰勒就是主人公自己,或者说主人公希望自己变成的样子,但最终泰勒是一个异己,是一个摆脱不掉的幽灵。就像在西方主流意识中,xxx曾经以救世主的姿态出现在人们面前,却最终幻化成为斯大林式的专制独裁和中国文化大革命的灾难,甚至包括六九年的五月风暴。共产主义是一个幽灵,游荡在欧洲大陆。xxx和共产主义永远是一场噩梦,就像主人公一觉醒来,泰勒悄然隐去,但可怕的计划却在自动进行。如同在一切历史上所发生的运动或革命一样,人们曾经热切的渴望自由和独立,一觉醒来却发现自己根本没有获得什么美好承诺的xx,反而失去自己的自由和独立,受到财产乃至生命被剥夺的威胁。影片{zh1}主人公觉醒了,“杀死”了泰勒,与心爱的女子手牵手,享受{zh1}的幻灭。是的,毁灭有一种无与伦比的吸引力,因为毁灭是禁忌。也许这可以是对这部影片的另一种阐释。 

     

      阐释还可以有很多,比如说影片{zh1}一闪而过的巨大的男性生殖器。也许导演只是拿观众开了另一个玩笑,也许导演只是拿这个镜头讽刺泰勒所代表的存在于整个形而上学史的男性生殖器中心主义,又也许只是与影片中泰勒在放映电影时所做的一样,是对传统道德或传统资产阶级的温文尔雅的挑衅。苏珊•桑塔格说,反对阐释。但我所写的只是我自己的真实感受,这是所有人都不能剥夺和篡改的。就是这样而已。 






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